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Dereckson: /* Examples with "such as" or "like" */

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Examples with "such as" or "like"

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	=== Examples with "such as" or "like" ===		=== Examples with "such as" or "like" ===

	''A lot of authors use "like" in both cases. As such, this section could be more prescriptive than descriptive<ref>See for example ~~P. Stewart, 9 février 2012~~, [https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/like-such-as.html A likely story: “like” vs. “such as.”] in ''The Grammarphobia Blog''.</ref>		''A lot of authors use "like" in both cases. As such, this section could be more prescriptive than descriptive<ref>See for example, [https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/like-such-as.html A likely story: “like” vs. “such as.”], 9 February 2012, in Patricia T. O’Conner and Stewart Kellerman, ''The Grammarphobia Blog''.</ref>

	The choice of "such as" over "like" is based on the distinction between using these terms when introducing examples.		The choice of "such as" over "like" is based on the distinction between using these terms when introducing examples.

Dereckson: /* Examples with "such as" or "like" */

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Examples with "such as" or "like"

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	''A lot of authors use "like" in both cases. As such, this section could be more prescriptive than descriptive<ref>See for example P. Stewart, 9 février 2012, [https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/like-such-as.html A likely story: “like” vs. “such as.”] in ''The Grammarphobia Blog''.</ref>		''A lot of authors use "like" in both cases. As such, this section could be more prescriptive than descriptive<ref>See for example P. Stewart, 9 février 2012, [https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/like-such-as.html A likely story: “like” vs. “such as.”] in ''The Grammarphobia Blog''.</ref>

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	The choice of "such as" over "like" is based on the distinction between using these terms when introducing examples.		The choice of "such as" over "like" is based on the distinction between using these terms when introducing examples.

Dereckson at 11:34, 1 November 2025

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	\| Benefit from \|\| The project benefits from exploring new databases. \|\| ''Less recommended:'' Benefit of		\| Benefit from \|\| The project benefits from exploring new databases. \|\| ''Less recommended:'' Benefit of
	\|}		\|}

			=== Examples with "such as" or "like" ===

			''A lot of authors use "like" in both cases. As such, this section could be more prescriptive than descriptive<ref>See for example P. Stewart, 9 février 2012, [https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/like-such-as.html A likely story: “like” vs. “such as.”] in ''The Grammarphobia Blog''.</ref>

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			The choice of "such as" over "like" is based on the distinction between using these terms when introducing examples.

			;In a nutshell
			:Specific example -> such as
			:Comparison, something similar but not identical -> like

			;Such as
			:The prepositional phrase "such as" is used when you are giving specific examples that are part of a defined set or category. It introduces concrete, identifiable examples that clarify or specify the meaning.
			:Example: "Queries that return a single scalar value, such as SELECT count(*)..."

			;Like
			:The preposition "like" is used for general comparisons, often when something is similar but not necessarily identical. It is less precise and typically refers to things that resemble the subject but are not exactly the same.
			:Example: "saved things like old newspapers and pieces of string"<ref>The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (5th ed.)</ref>
			:Less recommended: "Queries that return a single scalar value, like SELECT count(*)..." (too specific example, not a comparison)

			;Tricky case - like for a frame of reference
			:When the examples are not specific but provide a frame of reference, "like" is used.
			:Example: "I like authors like Iain M. Banks or Ann Leckie"

Dereckson at 21:37, 29 October 2025

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	* Recommended: "I'll clean the kitchen after I finish cooking dinner."<br>(Finish cooking is the first step; cleaning follows, so "will clean" is in future tense.)		* Recommended: "I'll clean the kitchen after I finish cooking dinner."<br>(Finish cooking is the first step; cleaning follows, so "will clean" is in future tense.)
	* Less advised: "My oven is free for the ham after I finished with the pumpkin pie."<br>(In this case, "finished" is past tense, but "is free" is present tense. The tenses don't align well for this sequence.)		* Less advised: "My oven is free for the ham after I finished with the pumpkin pie."<br>(In this case, "finished" is past tense, but "is free" is present tense. The tenses don't align well for this sequence.)

			=== Prepositions ===

			{\| class="wikitable"
			\|+ Table of verbs and prepositions
			\|-
			! Verb + preposition !! Example sentence !! Notes
			\|-
			\| Benefit from \|\| The project benefits from exploring new databases. \|\| ''Less recommended:'' Benefit of
			\|}

Dereckson: /* Use of "Which" vs. "That" */

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Use of "Which" vs. "That"

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	* Recommended: The class extends inetOrgPerson, which provides basic functionality.		* Recommended: The class extends inetOrgPerson, which provides basic functionality.
	* Less advised: The class extends inetOrgPerson that provides basic functionality.		* Less advised: The class extends inetOrgPerson that provides basic functionality.

			* Recommended: The book that I borrowed from the library is due tomorrow.<br>(If we remove the clause, the sentence ''The book is due tomorrow'' will let reader perplex)

	=== Word order for emphasis ===		=== Word order for emphasis ===

Dereckson: +After I [finish], then I will [do].

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+After I [finish], then I will [do].

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	* Recommended: T1772 reserves .100.		* Recommended: T1772 reserves .100.
	* Less advised: T1772 reserves the .100.		* Less advised: T1772 reserves the .100.

			=== "After I [finish], then I will [do]." ===
			In the sentence After I [finish], then I will [do]:
			# Use "'''will'''" (future tense) for the second action.
			# Use the present tense for the first action, especially when it implies completion before the second.

			;Example:
			* Recommended: "My oven will be free for the ham after I finish with the pumpkin pie."<br>(The pie will be done first, then the ham can go in, so we use the future tense for the ham.)
			* Recommended: "I'll clean the kitchen after I finish cooking dinner."<br>(Finish cooking is the first step; cleaning follows, so "will clean" is in future tense.)
			* Less advised: "My oven is free for the ham after I finished with the pumpkin pie."<br>(In this case, "finished" is past tense, but "is free" is present tense. The tenses don't align well for this sequence.)

Dereckson: /* Grammar memento */

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Grammar memento

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	Do not use "the" before proper nouns unless they refer to a specific entity (e.g., the United States, the Eiffel Tower). When referring to concepts or general terms, articles (like "the") are often unnecessary.		Do not use "the" before proper nouns unless they refer to a specific entity (e.g., the United States, the Eiffel Tower). When referring to concepts or general terms, articles (like "the") are often unnecessary.

	:Example:		;Example:
	* Recommended: T1772 reserves .100.		* Recommended: T1772 reserves .100.
	* Less advised: T1772 reserves the .100.		* Less advised: T1772 reserves the .100.

Dereckson: After proofreading with GPT 4, I got the idea to ask for a grammar memento

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After proofreading with GPT 4, I got the idea to ask for a grammar memento

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== Grammar memento ==
=== Use of "Which" vs. "That" ===
Use "which" for non-essential clauses and "that" for essential clauses. In most cases, if you’re adding information that could be omitted without changing the core meaning, use "which."

;Example:
* Recommended: The class extends inetOrgPerson, which provides basic functionality.
* Less advised: The class extends inetOrgPerson that provides basic functionality.

=== Word order for emphasis ===
For smoother flow, adverbs like "directly" often sound better when placed after the verb. This avoids awkward pauses and improves sentence readability.

;Example:
* Less Natural: "Can directly be added"
* More Natural: "Can be added directly"

=== Avoid redundancy ===
Sometimes words or phrases can be redundant. For example, "here" and "the" can be unnecessary when the meaning is already clear from context.

;Example:
* Less necessary: "While here we reserve .1 for the LDAP..."
* More concise: "While we reserve .1 for LDAP..."

=== Don't abuse "the" ===
Do not use "the" before proper nouns unless they refer to a specific entity (e.g., the United States, the Eiffel Tower). When referring to concepts or general terms, articles (like "the") are often unnecessary.

:Example:
* Recommended: T1772 reserves .100.
* Less advised: T1772 reserves the .100.